Code Geass discussion Thread

[azul120]

Yep, Lelouch has already had the Et Tu Brute moment covered, between that and Suzaku turning him in to the Emperor for the KotR spot.

But yeah, come to think of it, that betrayal moment seems awfully reminiscent of the Ides of March with him out in the open, if not for the lack of a forewarning.

The thing is that Judas is a more commonly associated name with traitor, regardless of circumstances. Not to mention the whole thirty pieces of silver thing, with Japan being the proverbial silver. Though of course, Oghi, instead of being bribed, came up with the deal in order to escape guilt.

Looking past the assorted technicalities, I do think there may be a more apt and clever way to describe his form of traitordom (which is linked to Stool Pigeon, btw).

One general question, someone suggested that aside from Aki (who resembles Kallen to no small degree), the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise has another Ersatz in Supreme King Judai of GX, whose outfit they say bears a slight resemblance to Zero, a High Collar Of Doom, only with really spiky armor.

Oh, and thanks for the congrats, though it's a low rank upgrade!

[Prime Administrator]

Hmmm, you've got me on this one.

Cassius is certainly not as well known as Brutus or Judas, but perhaps a more "modern" character. Like a Benedict Arnold for example, who actually sold out G. Washington to the British.
From Fictional characters I can think of a few--like Saruman from LOTR--that would fit, but I'm not sure that people would instantly recognize the character.
I'll have to think about this for awhile.

As for Ersatz, I googled the character to find out what he looks like (I'm too old for Yu-Gi-Oh , it's after my time).
Here's a line art image I found:

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and a color image:

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There are certainly some similarities in their colors, but outside of that I see nothing that resembles the Zero outfit.

[azul120]

Ha ha ha. Ever heard of Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged, the gag dub of Yu-Gi-Oh? There's a joke where about this fangirl theory that the main antihero, Seto Kaiba, is "the lovechild of Light Yagami and Lelouch from Code Geass". (Kaiba, for the record, is another character with an orphan backstory and a younger sibling Morality Pet who later becomes well known as a taciturn Chessmaster, only he's a lot more dog eat dog, aside from the not caught in a war thing.)

Anyways, I was thinking of a non-name allegory for traitor if anything. Something that isn't too esoteric.

ETA: Maybe just Betrayer Barry.

[Prime Administrator]

Oh, I'm sorry.

I gotcha now.

Hmmm, maybe something like Backstabbing Buddy or Babe-Driven Betrayer?
I'm trying to capture Ougi in totality in my suggestions, thus Villetta will play a part in these names.

I can see Light and Lelouch having a love-child, even though they both seem in love with themselves.

[azul120]

Well, YGO Abridged just does a lot of pop cultural references and parodies. Hence the Lelouch and Light references. (Heck, an early episode had a parody of the Evangelion opening.)

Babe-driven betrayer could work. Or trouser driven traitor, if I wanted to be vicious.

[Prime Administrator]

I like trouser-driven-traitor.

I also thought of Temptress-controlled Turncoat.
That one sort of lumps in Villetta as well...and I know how much you "like" Villetta.

[azul120]

Ah yes, the woman who led the man astray. I wonder if I will ever go through with that Revenge Fic idea.

[LadyWarrior]

Uh...hmm...It takes two to tango, dears.

He didn't need to let himself get lured into her heart-shaped tar pit trap.

[Prime Administrator]

Hey LadyWarrior, what would you call Ohgi with regard to his being led into--as you put it--Villetta's "heart-shaped tar pit" and eventually onwards to betray Lelouch because of her?

I'm fresh out of ideas, but I would like to help azul120 out.
Do you have suggestions?

[azul120]

Heh.

Come to think of it, it's funny what you said about Oghi lacking Japanese honor, because it seemed to be that kind of pride that kept Lelouch from telling the truth about many of his mistakes.